The Wiki Help Desk V2: Our Hero, Tacopill

[Member#36]

Do you want to understand patrolling?  ...Does HTML coding bring you down?  This thread is here to answer the questions you couldn't answer with your wiki's help pages.  However, please remember to look at your wiki's help pages because they are likely to answer a lot of the questions you may come up with.

All posts should folllow the rules, and try to be detailed as possible with the subject matter you wish to find answers on.  Also, all questions should be wiki-related, as all non-wiki related questions will be deleted on sight.

With that, ask away!

[Lazor Shroom Midna Freak]

as all non-wiki related questions will be deleted on sight.

It's sight. S-I-G-H-T.

[Member#36]

as all non-wiki related questions will be deleted on sight.

It's sight. S-I-G-H-T.

What?  ...You MUST be seeing things....

[tacopill]

 

http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=346.0

[Member#36]

http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=346.0

I saw that, but didn't want to merge it due to the WR board construction.

[tacopill]

http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=346.0

I saw that, but didn't want to merge it due to the WR board construction.

Which is why i posted it as a link instead of asking for a Merger.

[Seritinajii]

I'm working on the Fire Emblem Wiki. I checked MediaWiki Help: Tables and made this template:
Template:CharacterStats.
The code is pretty long, but not that complicated:

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{|style="border-collapse: collapse; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: #000"
!width=100; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Class
!width=50; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Affin
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Lv
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| HP
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Str
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Skill
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Spd
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Luck
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Def
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Res
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Move
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Con
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Aid
!width=100; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Weapon level
|-


Also, when I posted it on the Eirika page I can only get borders to work for the stats part like this:

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{{Template:CharacterStats}}
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|Lord
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|Light
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|1
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|6
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|4
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|8
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|9
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|5
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|3
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|1
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|5
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|5
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|4
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|Sword: E
|}


Is there any way I can make this shorter? Also, I grabbed the code from MediaWiki's table help page...

[Justin]

I'm working on the Fire Emblem Wiki. I checked MediaWiki Help: Tables and made this template:
Template:CharacterStats.
The code is pretty long, but not that complicated:

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{|style="border-collapse: collapse; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: #000"
!width=100; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Class
!width=50; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Affin
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Lv
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| HP
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Str
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Skill
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Spd
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Luck
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Def
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Res
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Move
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Con
!width=35; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Aid
!width=100; style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"| Weapon level
|-


Also, when I posted it on the Eirika page I can only get borders to work for the stats part like this:

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{{Template:CharacterStats}}
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|Lord
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|Light
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|1
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|6
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|4
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|8
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|9
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|5
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|3
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|1
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|5
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|5
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|4
|style="border-style: solid; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0"|Sword: E
|}


Is there any way I can make this shorter? Also, I grabbed the code from MediaWiki's table help page...

I know why.
border-style and border-width are deprecated. Use

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border: (width) (style) (color);

[tacopill]

check out this page: http://www.code-generator.net/html/codes/html-border-code.cfm.

[Seritinajii]

Wait, but, I'm not experienced in wiki table formatting, so how should I input the HTML or width & style values?

[tacopill]

you put in html attributes in the wiki syntax, like so:

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{| style="border:3px solid orange;"
This box has a solid html border.
|}


Edit:  Taking a close look at it, have you tried puting "px" on the width=#; . border-width is still allowed if you wish to be specific on width for specific sides of the cell(s).

[Seritinajii]

So thanks to tacopill, I have the template table code quite cleared up.

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{|style="border:1px solid black"
! width=100px|Class
! width=50px|Affin
! width=35px|Lv
! width=35px|HP
! width=35px|Str
! width=35px|Skill
! width=35px|Spd
! width=35px|Luck
! width=35px|Def
! width=35px|Res
! width=35px|Move
! width=35px|Con
! width=35px|Aid
! width=100px|Weapon level
|-

And same with the page that uses it. Here's the template now, and there aren't any lines between the different stats.
So I have individual box widths, but how can I make borders between the individual stat boxes?

[tacopill]

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{| style="border:3px solid orange;"
! width=100px style="border-right:3px solid red;" |Class
! width=50px style="border-right:3px solid orange;"  |Affin
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid yellow;"  |Lv
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid green;"  |HP
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid blue;"  |Str
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid purple;"  |Skill
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid red;"  |Spd
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid orange;"  |Luck
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid yellow;"  |Def
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid green;"  |Res
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid blue;"  |Move
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid purple;"  |Con
! width=35px style="border-right:3px solid red;"  |Aid
! width=100px |Weapon level
|-

try this out. and happy to help out.

[Seritinajii]

I actually think the rainbow design looks kinda nice... but anyway.
Here's the current template; how can I make the cell borders reach the top and bottom of the table?

[tacopill]

do you mind if i experiment on wiki that template? also. with that table ever have more than 2 rows? (the header row and 1 data row). 

[Seritinajii]

Nope..

It seems that someone's changed the template - Here's the current template, and I think it looks better than what I was trying to put together. So I guess this is done..

[tacopill]

ok, nevermind on that then.

The information in the header row, is any of it important enough to get it's own page?

[Seritinajii]

They probably all warrant pages. Or, possibly, most of them can be allocated to a "stats" page or something. Class, afffinity, and weapon level probably would get their own pages.

[Tappy]

Ello! I'm starting to work on SSB Wiki and I've got a question about templates.

Is it possible to hide certain parts of a template if it's not used?

Say I have template:

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{| style="border: 1px #cecece solid; width: 500px;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
|-
! colspan="2" style="text-align: center;font-weight: bold;background: #e9e9e9;border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid;"| {{PAGENAME}} Moves in SSBB
|-
| style="background: #e9e9e9; border-right: 1px #cecece solid; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; text-align: center; width: 50%;"| Standard Special Move
| style="background: #fbfbfb; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; padding-left: 3px;"| {{{standard}}}
|-
| style="background: #e9e9e9; border-right: 1px #cecece solid; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; text-align: center;width: 50%;"| Side Special Move
| style="background: #fbfbfb; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; padding-left: 3px;"| {{{side}}}
|-
| style="background: #e9e9e9; border-right: 1px #cecece solid; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; text-align: center;width: 50%;"| Up Special Move
| style="background: #fbfbfb; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; padding-left: 3px;"| {{{up}}}
|-
| style="background: #e9e9e9; border-right: 1px #cecece solid; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; text-align: center;width: 50%;"| Down Special Move
| style="background: #fbfbfb; border-bottom: 1px #cecece solid; padding-left: 3px;"| {{{down}}}
|-
| style="background: #e9e9e9; border-right: 1px #cecece solid; text-align: center;width: 50%;"| Final Smash
| style="background: #fbfbfb; padding-left: 3px;"| {{{final}}}
|}

But perhaps X Character doesn't have let's say Up Special Move and we ignore it on the article page when including the template:

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{{Moves(SSBB)
| standard = sdg
| side = asdf
| down = uio2b365
| final = sdgf
}}

How do you make it so it doesn't apply the template and stick in this case {{{up}}} ?

Thanks

[tacopill]

There's a smash bros. wiki? why have i not heard of this?  


Anyway,

one way you could do it, is to follow tina's example with the Character infobox over at WikiBound. In it, she specifies a sepearte varible to be set to true, if she wants certain fields/rows to appear. if they are ignored, the row simply doesn't appear.

This uses the following pages:
# 1
# 2