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Quote from: dantman on November 13, 2010, 07:42:45 PM
I can't be sure of the quality of the hosting and it's reliability matched with how much it costs to run until at least one wiki is using it... So it's fairly important for the first wiki I try hosting to be ones that have the capability to return to where they were before I tired hosting.
Well, if it fails, it fails. If I remain on Wikia, well, then there wouldn't be anything to visit. Like I said, my entire wiki is completely destroyed by Oasis, there is absolutely no way to salvage things. So I just want to move and be done with it. If it doesn't work in the long run, so be it but as things are right now, the wiki has no future. Though, again, I would not be the only wiki in this move. To support the SEIWA idea, I wanted to have at least 2 wikis from Wikia move simultaneously, and function together to show that wikis who want to leave Wikia, can do so.

Quote from: Dantman
Ads and the only ideas I can come up with for reasonable ad placements, as well as getting techniques ready for migrating wiki take development time before they're ready. Ads also take time before they actually start earning enough to cover costs.
I am not entirely sure what you mean regarding the migration itself. Mediawiki exporting and importing should be more than sufficient. Admittingly, I don't know how troublesome it would be to get Mediawiki up and running but that seems to be the only roadbump in the actual migration. As for initial costs, those aren't that big of a deal, anything long term or expensive, would be a different story.

Quote from: Dantman
I don't believe I have the resources to indefinitely host ad-only wiki till the ads start making enough to cover the server cost without anyone paying directly for the hosting. Of course if I already have directly paid wiki on the hosting, it's only a matter of the time till I have the stuff developed to start taking in moving wiki that want to use the ad model.
Well, thats the one problem the SEIWA idea is facing. We want to make/have to make the SEIWA idea work for wikis leaving Wikia from the start, as the only independent Square Enix wikis I know of, are the ones that have the same topic as mine (we're "competitors" in their eyes) so placing one of them at the center would inevitably force my wiki from being able to join the SEIWA ("Conflict of Interest").

Quote from: Dantman
By the way, I caution against sharing users across a set of wiki, unless the sysops on each wiki are trusted on the other wiki, sharing users opens up holes that allow sysops from one wiki to attack users in a way that affects the other wiki in certain ways. Sharing users across untrusted wiki is not actually an officially supported configuration. Also, shared users don't work so well if you aren't sharing a single base domain.
I don't see how this is an issue with sharing users amongst an organization like the SEIWA, if the admins aren't trustworthy, then they probably wouldn't get into it in the first place.
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Is there no way you would consider aiding a wiki that needs to leave Wikia as soon as possible?
I represent the FFXIV Wiki and I recently joined the discussion about forming "SEIWA", the Square Enix equivalent to the NIWA. My concerns now focus on getting the hell off of Wikia, as Oasis completely wrecked my site. However, I don't want to move, just to move again, when the SEIWA idea comes to fruition.

I am perfectly fine with Ads, so long as they aren't audio/video/pop ups (you know, the truly annoying ones?) As others have said, those of us wishing to leave Wikia, are accustomed to not having to pay for hosting. I would like to keep things this way if at all possible through the aforementioned Ads.

Other than that, I personally would prefer a way to have SEIWA wikis, able to share hosting (or something else), to enable static usernames. This might be possible with other options but this way seems to be the simplest manner in which to do so (shared hosting).

So, I'll ask again, is there any way you can work my wiki: http://ffxiv.wikia.com in its departure from Wikia, and set it up in a manner that it would be able to help form "SEIWA", without having to use direct payment options (Ads are fine)?