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http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/12/13/gamepedias-parent-company-has-been-aquired-by-fandom

"Fandom", of course, being better known under its being-phased-out name. Wikia.

Don't ask me about the Photobucket thing, this is the default SMF skin, not a customized NIWA skin. No idea why it's like that.

Actually, the broken Photobucket link is to http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af353/Dathen69/niwalogo.png

You must have the broken logo entered in the software somewhere.

You should change the Templates mainpage link from [[Special:UncategorizedTemplates|Templates]] to  [[Special:AllPages/Template:|Templates]] (if you really want to list them all, that is), since you'll presumably want to categorise them at some point (use <noinclude> tags around the Category links to avoid the template categories showing up in pages that transclude the template)

One piece of advice - DON'T stick Recent Changes at the bottom of the sidebar. It's one of the most important functionality pages on a wiki and should be easy to get to (it's far more important to have in the sidebar than copyrights, which people will glance at once or twice at most - the fact that you're GDFL-licensed is in the footer on every page, and the Nintendo aspect is in your General Disclaimer, also in the footer. Incidentally, why GDFL 1.2 rather than 1.3 or a Creative Commons licence if you feel copyrights are that important?).

Oh dear god that's horrifying.  In any case, cases like that should be marked by the usage of Template:Jargon, which I just made.

Shouldn't it sort into a jargon-specific subcategory of the main cleanup category?

Also, the Smasher: namespace seems half-baked, literally. Why did the individual players get moved out of the mainspace, but the "crew", tournament, etc articles didn't? Either the Smasher: namespace should encompass them too (which would be my preferred suggestion), or there should be another namespace or namespaces for them.

That namespace is a leftover from SmashWiki's original days as an independent wiki with Smashboards.   I think right now we'd be better off jettisoning the whole thing and starting it from scratch to ensure its quality than spending the incredible amounts of time to determine who's really notable and who isn't.  (I think crew pages should, with few exceptions, be deleted altogether, and tournament articles are similarly questionable.)

I entirely agree (and if anyone DISagrees, point them at http://www.ssbwiki.com/Category:Smasher_stubs ).

I'm less-than-sure there'd be consensus for it, unfortunately, but the first [non-controversial] step would be to purge broken and unused redirects from the mainspace to the Smasher: namespace anyway, to help get [[Special:Allpages]] under some sort of control.

I've just put the twelve broken mainspace->Smasher:space redirects up for speedy deletion. Hunting down unused main->Smasher: redirects will take longer, but I'd be willing to help look if you'd be willing to delete them.

Blame the Melee tournament community for locking these in as the community-accepted terms. :/

I suppose that goes back to the apparent reason why T.W. wanted a "basic smashwiki" - is SmashWiki intended exclusively for the tournament community? If it isn't, then just saying "there's a glossary" (IS there even one?) isn't enough - any reader fluent in the English language should be able to basically follow every page and glean useful information from it without reference to any other page, with everything obvious enough for that much from the context. Whereas lots of SmashWiki is impenetrable to the casual reader without a whole bunch of prior knowledge (for a particularly bad example, see http://www.ssbwiki.com/Zelda_%28SSBM%29#Combos - I didn't put the cleanup tag on it, but I fully agree with the sentiment), and that's the definition of "too much jargon".

Also, the Smasher: namespace seems half-baked, literally. Why did the individual players get moved out of the mainspace, but the "crew", tournament, etc articles didn't? Either the Smasher: namespace should encompass them too (which would be my preferred suggestion), or there should be another namespace or namespaces for them.

I am asking for opinions, lol.  It would help to know if SmashWiki's talking nonsensical jargon in most people's eyes.

There is a fair amount of that. It's why I've spent a lot of time trying to replace terms like "nair" and "dair", which I was completely lost by at first - "Neutral aerial" and "down aerial" aren't the best of terms, but at least there's SOME hope of figuring them out from context. Or to put it another way - if I asked someone who plays SSBB casually what they thought of Link's "fair" attack, not in a million years would they realise it meant an aerial attack in the direction the character is facing without further explanation or many guesses.

There really is too much of that. "Tilt" isn't a particuarly intuitive name either, even with modifiers...

No problem. Just watch - it won't stop them signing up, just block the template they've been using from being saved [i.e., it's a band-aid to buy time for more permanent solutions rather than a final fix]

I know SmashWiki and ZeldaWiki at least are being hammered. Having looked at the spam pages, there's a common link that can be blocked. If the wiki owners add

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$wgSpamRegex = "/SESS_/"; to LocalSettings.php, it will at least block the current set of spam pages.

Yeah, I know; I wasn't saying I wouldn't get around to doing it, just that it's obviously not a favourable solution.  We wouldn't have the flexibility we have now: enemy pages would have to specify every type of notes they have data for, instead of just checking the data (subpages) directly.

Could you include these lists in templates? (e.g., instead of {{{notes|monster|NPC}}}, have {{notes|{{TpltX}}}}}.)

EDIT 2: Through several edits, I managed to move the coding around so that if it says {{notes|treasure}} and the stuff doesn't exist, the links won't appear. However even though the links don't appear, they still somehow manage to wind up on Special:Wantedpages...

Did you wait for Wantedpages to recache? Pikipedia's Wanted Pages only refreshes once a day at 09:40 GMT.

Maxite: Explain?

I think he wants wiki mergers and/or lots of scope creep so that all the NIWA wikis cover the same stuff (e.g., Zelda Wiki "should" cover Smash Bros. since Link & co appear. Since it then covers Smash Bros., it will have articles on Kirby characters and so "should" cover Kirby. And so on...)

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Yoshi's Safari, Yoshi Topsy-Turvy (AKA Yoshi's Universal Gravitation), and Yoshi's Story don't have Mario in them.

Safari title screen: http://www.mariowiki.com/File:Yoshi%27s_Safari_Title.png [It's a FPS from Mario's POV]

And Yoshi's Story & YTT/YUG both have Bowser as the villain [I said Mario characters, not just Mario]. c.f. DK, who has his own set of stock villains, etc.

And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added...

That's sad to hear.

Oh, I reverted back, I just didn't want to end up in a revert war...

OK, I spoke to him.

Ta.

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Surely though, Mario wiki has it covered.

See: Donkey Kong Wiki

Sure, but there's a bunch of DK games (DK Country series, DK Land series, DK64, Donkey Konga series, DK: King of Swing, Diddy Kong Racing, DK Barrel Blast/Jet Race, etc) that simply don't feature Mario characters. They're related, since they come from a common root and DK characters sometimes appear in Mario spin-offs (e.g., Mario Kart, Mario Party), sure; but there's a separate core.

Is there that core for Yoshi? The core Yoshi games (Yoshi's Safari, SMW: Yoshi's Island, Yoshi's Story, Yoshi's Island DS; even spin-offs like Yoshi/Mario & Yoshi and Yoshi Touch & Go,) still feature Mario characters (sometimes as Baby versions) after all.

Ultimately, to me, DK games are a franchise that crossover with Mario games, while Yoshi games are just a subset of Mario games.

And having said that, User:MeritC is now going through and reverting all of the links I added... if the staff have agreed to put SmashWiki links on pages, someone should have a word with him.

Yet little did you know that a day before we had a discussion in the admin boards (on this topic) and decided that we would add SmashWiki links to the pages ourselves. I'm pretty sure any admins would have remembered that conversation and said "OK" - I know I did.

The day before yesterday, or the day before I started [i.e., the 31st of December or earlier, since I started on the first of Jan]?

[Either way, 'course I didn't know ]

That's why interwiki linking helps, and as far as I can tell, MarioWiki isn't linking to SmashWiki at all on their SSB pages.

Fixed!

[Seriously, this is one of those "don't complain about it, change it" things - I've been through most of the major MarioWiki SSB pages over the past week (including Subspace Army & characters), put at least one and frequently more [[SmashWiki:*]] links on each (along with adding links to other relevant NIWA wikis when I remembered, and a few small fixes), and not once has there been a reversion over it. Closest I came was someone not noticing those links, then reverting himself because "nvm hes puuting links on SmashWiki which is good" before I even noticed it had been changed.]