red vs ash who would win

[tacopill]

Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*

What's a Pikaderp?

Ash's Pikachu.

I'm pretty sure Ash's pikachu is called "Pikachu".

[Terra]

Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*

What's a Pikaderp?

Ash's Pikachu.

I'm pretty sure Ash's pikachu is called "Pikachu".

I call it a Pikaderp. It should have no reason losing it's Electricity twice.

[tacopill]

Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*

What's a Pikaderp?

Ash's Pikachu.

I'm pretty sure Ash's pikachu is called "Pikachu".

I call it a Pikaderp. It should have no reason losing it's Electricity twice.

There are plenty of reasons an electrical source can loose it's power. They just choose two of them, and moved on.

[Terra]

Is this even a question? Red hands down. Red has Lapras. Ash has a Pikaderp.

YOU DARE SLAM PIKACHU? YOU MUST DIE!!! *lightning* *lightning*

What's a Pikaderp?

Ash's Pikachu.

I'm pretty sure Ash's pikachu is called "Pikachu".

I call it a Pikaderp. It should have no reason losing it's Electricity twice.

There are plenty of reasons an electrical source can loose it's power. They just choose two of them, and moved on.

Still no reason. Plus how can it lose to Pokemon many levels weaker, such as Roark's Cranidos. Pikaderps weak.

[Mari-Illustrious-Makinami]

Plot points, my friend, plot points.

[Maxite]

Just you wait: In one of the movies, Ash will go back in time and fight himself, and lose.

I'd vote for Red from the Games. Not only is he a quiet protagonist, but he actually manages to disband Team Rocket and beat the Indigo League, unlike his anime counterpart.

[Mari-Illustrious-Makinami]

BUT THEN THE SHOW COULDN'T CONTINUE IF HE DID THAT. D:

[tacopill]

Ash was rarely ever given a chance to take down legit Team rock officials; so how can we say he couldn't? The anime didn't follow the game closely in the beginning, so how can you compare them at all?

Also, Pikachu has been purposely restarting at a lower level, so he doesn't stay OP'ed like he was in the first season.

[KidIcarus]

Ash because Pikachu is the most powerful non-Legendary in the show