Usage of Fanon

[Peanut64]

Separate from NIWA? That sounds horrible. Why would we do that when we have previously said that NIWA needs to establish itself before we start helping other non-Nintendo franchises to create their own networks and alliances?

Fanon Wikis have their place in NIWA just as the Pikmin Fanon wiki does. NIWA was never billed as "Facts Only" because, let's face it: It's all fiction. I think that if a legitimate and well established and operated wiki on Zelda or Mario or Kirby or Star Fox fanon came around and wanted to join, and measured up to our standards, why not? We've let in Strategy Wiki, and they're not a franchise wiki - they're neither fanon nor are they canonical "Facts" about a series. Should we start a whole OTHER organization for Wikis about stuff like that?

I will always see our failure with Fantendo as the hallmark of what makes bureaucracy horrible. We do not need to separate everything into these neat little categories and label everything and put things in their own special confined little boxes. There needs to be this sense of unity, that after being called "Nintendo" we're all in this together. That's what unifies us.

I don't see a problem with start-up Fanon wikis. I agree that it would keep fanon off of our "facts only" wikis, and keeping these fanon Wikis inside of NIWA alongside their Canon counterparts would be better suited to that end.

Yes, you do bring up a good point. Keeping it together will bring us a sense of unit. That is something I completely overlooked.

Yes, and This will also bring even more wikis to NIWA, expanding its horizon. I agree with the latter comments, but now, why don't we set some Fanon wikis up now? I will contact each canon wiki asking to set up a fanon subdomain. Then we can move all of the Fanon wikis on the main page. If anyone objects to this, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Also, can I be the NIWA Fanon Coordinator or something like that? I have experience with Fanon all the way. If you don't trust me then I will still be just fine. In fact, my first wiki ever was of Fanon.

[Tucayo]

The MarioWiki has already got something like a fanon wiki, Userpedia, but it is more of users fanon, and not really Mario fanon

[Peanut64]

The MarioWiki has already got something like a fanon wiki, Userpedia, but it is more of users fanon, and not really Mario fanon

This has already been explained. If you look earlier in the topic you will find that we need a seperate Mario Fanon Wiki that will go on NIWA's main page. And also please tell me if I can be a Fanon Coordinator.

[Peanut64]

BTW, Wars Wiki has their AWRP. Which is the Advance Wars Role Play wiki.

To elaborate, WC has a two year old Advance Wars RP, which has it's own Wiki (AWRPedia) for all sorts of details. It's quite basic, but it more than serves the purpose it was created for.

@Jojo: If only you could move it to a Fanon subdomain...

[KidIcarus]

Separate from NIWA? That sounds horrible. Why would we do that when we have previously said that NIWA needs to establish itself before we start helping other non-Nintendo franchises to create their own networks and alliances?

Fanon Wikis have their place in NIWA just as the Pikmin Fanon wiki does. NIWA was never billed as "Facts Only" because, let's face it: It's all fiction. I think that if a legitimate and well established and operated wiki on Zelda or Mario or Kirby or Star Fox fanon came around and wanted to join, and measured up to our standards, why not? We've let in Strategy Wiki, and they're not a franchise wiki - they're neither fanon nor are they canonical "Facts" about a series. Should we start a whole OTHER organization for Wikis about stuff like that?

I will always see our failure with Fantendo as the hallmark of what makes bureaucracy horrible. We do not need to separate everything into these neat little categories and label everything and put things in their own special confined little boxes. There needs to be this sense of unity, that after being called "Nintendo" we're all in this together. That's what unifies us.

I don't see a problem with start-up Fanon wikis. I agree that it would keep fanon off of our "facts only" wikis, and keeping these fanon Wikis inside of NIWA alongside their Canon counterparts would be better suited to that end.

Yes, you do bring up a good point. Keeping it together will bring us a sense of unit. That is something I completely overlooked.

Yes, and This will also bring even more wikis to NIWA, expanding its horizon. I agree with the latter comments, but now, why don't we set some Fanon wikis up now? I will contact each canon wiki asking to set up a fanon subdomain. Then we can move all of the Fanon wikis on the main page. If anyone objects to this, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Also, can I be the NIWA Fanon Coordinator or something like that? I have experience with Fanon all the way. If you don't trust me then I will still be just fine. In fact, my first wiki ever was of Fanon.

It's probably better to let the fanon wikis begin naturally. If you create them before there is enough demand for it, the communities will just end up dying.

[Xizor]

I agree. We'll just let them happen, but if you can find the support on those other wikis, go for it. However, a Wiki is a Wiki - within NIWA, all wikis are the same, regardless of subject matter. The fact that it is about Fanon and not Canon is the same as how Zelda Wiki is about Zelda and not Star Fox.

[Seritinajii]

Sorry for bumping, but what exactly defines fanon? If somebody creates a fanon wiki, do users just create their own content and publish it?

[Toomai]

The word "fanon" is typically used to refer to anything that fans make up, like fan fiction, fan games, etc.

[Metechar]

I have a Pokémon wikkii named PokeFanon. It only has one article on a Pokémon named Cumuspark, even though I have created over 30 Pokémon already. My computer has a virus so I can't do anything right now... I have to use my Wii for the Internet. Meanwhile, please join my wikkii! It's on Wikkii, of course. The link is under my profile picture.

[tacopill]

fanon is, as Toomai said, things the fans created. these include things like fan-fiction and fan-made ideas, but sometimes also are used fan-substitution for canon-material.

[BooDestroyer]

http://chetrippo.deviantart.com/art/Paper-Mario-The-Book-of-Ages-61187424

Take a look at this fan-made idea for a Paper Mario game.

If you're going to do fanon, then it's your ultimate responsibility to put the extra thought and effort into it. Like this guy has done with that.

[tacopill]

http://chetrippo.deviantart.com/art/Paper-Mario-The-Book-of-Ages-61187424

Nice.

[BooDestroyer]

Erm...Are you sure you got what I said right after that?

I'd also suggest you try putting a little more into your replies too, in any event.

[Maxite]

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's nice. It's just a giant wall of text (or for me it is).

[BooDestroyer]

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's nice. It's just a giant wall of text (or for me it is).

You didn't even look at the picture, did you? And there's a whole series of its chapters he put together on it.

Man, and I was hoping this place would have less absent minds...

[Maxite]

If you're doing a fanfic, the pictures are just icing. The actual cake is the text, and if the text doesn't look appetizing, no amount of visuals is going to fix it.

[BooDestroyer]

But this is more of a fan game idea as opposed to fanfiction. Only clarifying.

Not all fan ideas are based in writing; I don't think you're using the term fanfiction right. I don't see how it's so hard for you to think "There really should be a game like that" just by looking at what you saw. At least when you see a fan idea that actually is good.

[tacopill]

Erm...Are you sure you got what I said right after that?

actually, now that you question my answer, i don't get what you are saying. I was simply giving a complement, because i thought it was nice.

And i don't know who you were directing the question too, b/c i never said i was doing fanon.....that i recall......

I'd also suggest you try putting a little more into your replies too, in any event.

never!

[Maxite]

I've done dabbling in fan fiction, and even fan game idea (a Harvest Moon/Pokemon crossover game? Yes please!). I am an amateur writer as well. In writing, just like any other artistic medium, how it appears does make a difference. The graphics can be lovely, but if the text looks terrible people aren't going to bother reading it or giving it much credence. Likewise, if you have wonderfully formatted and eloquent text but shitty graphics you can again lose the appeal of your readers.

I'm not saying that the idea or content is bad in and of itself. I'm just saying that it *looks* bad.

[R7308xx]

If EarthBoundFanon gains it's independence, it could join.