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:My recommendation is to use the official <whatever>, and if none are available, then do <whatever> is the most convenient for the reader.   
 
:My recommendation is to use the official <whatever>, and if none are available, then do <whatever> is the most convenient for the reader.   
 
:Anyway, just my opinion. {{User:Tacopill/sig}} 01:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
 
:Anyway, just my opinion. {{User:Tacopill/sig}} 01:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
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::That makes no sense at all. A translation is not a transliteration or transcription, they can't just be used interchangably. A translation would be like "Kirby of the Stars" for 星のカービィ, as opposed to "Hoshi no Kābī". We'll have to decide on which one we want to use this for. Better yet, we could have two attributes, one for the romanisation and one for the translation; that seems to make the most sense to me.--[[User:Vellidragon|Vellidragon]] 02:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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:::Alright, just keep in mind, that as far as we/I know, Nintendo has no official stance whether to use transliteration or transcriptions, with the "official translations" quite often being non-literal. {{User:Tacopill/sig}} 20:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
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::::The problem is not whether to use a transcription or transliteration, the problem is that some people have been using this for a TRANSLATION (which is neither transcription nor transliteration, but the components of the name translated to a different language) while others have used it for a reading, which is something completely different. But you may know that anyway and we're just talking at cross purposes again. My suggestion would have one attribute for the transcription/transliteration, i.e. the reading, and another for the translation into English. E.g. "Hoshi no Kābī" in the reading one and "Kirby of the Stars" in the translation one. This just for clarification... I believe this is actually how StrategyWiki handles it, and the box appears to be based on their game infobox.--[[User:Vellidragon|Vellidragon]] 20:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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:::::Alright, so I modified the template for this
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:::::* '''jptrans''' - for transcription or transliteration, placed under the title-text when it is hovered over by a cursor.
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:::::* '''jptranslation''' - for translations.
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::::::Would that work? :). {{User:Tacopill/sig}} 22:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
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:Necrobump, I justified doing it because this wiki is not that big. jproman and jpliteral possibly, because the ones Tacopill suggested sound a bit too similar sorry. Roman is for {{wp|Romanization of Japanese|romanization}}; possibly do Hepburn like Bulbapedia. Perhaps a third and fourth one too, jpromanofficial and jplocalofficial like for example (respectively/in order of mentioning) Densetsu no Stafy and The Legend of Stafy ([[iQue]]), Legend of Stafy ([[Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]]) <span style="color:#FF00FF><font face="Blackadder ITC"><span style="font-size:150%">[[User talk:Torchickens|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">From Evie (Torchickens) ✿</span>]]</font></span> 23:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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::This sounds good to me. {{User:Tacopill/sig}} 00:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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::Thanks for your reply ^^ <span style="color:#FF00FF><font face="Blackadder ITC"><span style="font-size:150%">[[User talk:Torchickens|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">From Evie (Torchickens) ✿</span>]]</font></span> 00:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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==Rereleases on other consoles suggestion==
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The '''rereleases''' parameter could be like: ([[Super Mario Bros.]]): [[Wii Virtual Console]], [[Game Boy Advance]] ([[Classic NES series]]); and so on - like what we already do but in a condensed less detailed form as in a list and nothing more. Thoughts? <span style="color:#FF00FF><font face="Blackadder ITC"><span style="font-size:150%">[[User talk:Torchickens|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">From Evie (Torchickens) ✿</span>]]</font></span> 23:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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:Would this be different from [[Super Mario Bros.#Other releases|Other releases]]? {{User:Tacopill/sig}} 00:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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:Not really, except in a condensed form, not in a table like it, and without the notes column. Though, short enough so people still at the top view of their browser can already have the gist. <span style="color:#FF00FF><font face="Blackadder ITC"><span style="font-size:150%">[[User talk:Torchickens|<span style="color:#FF00FF;">From Evie (Torchickens) ✿</span>]]</font></span> 00:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
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==Pricing section==
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Should have real-world currency as well. --[[User:Viperision|Viperision]] ([[User talk:Viperision|talk]]) 14:14, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:14, 15 July 2021

Jptrans?

What is the "jptrans" attribute supposed to be for? The "trans" can be understood to mean "translation" just as much as "transcription" or "transliteration", so some articles are currently using it for the translated Japanese title while others are using it for the reading... Which one is correct?--Vellidragon 15:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't think we have a "correct one", as from what I can tell, it is a case-by-case basis. For example, The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask is ゼルダの伝説 ムジュラの仮面 which comes romanized as "Zelda no Densetsu: Mujura no Kamen" itself, having the literal translation of The Legend of Zelda: Mask of Mujura. Pokémon Gold is "ケットモンスター金", romanized as Pocket Monsters Kin, literally coming out as Pocket Monsters Gold.
Come to think of it, having a "correct" one maybe to our disadvantage, since, from what I can tell, different games have different handing of the situation. Some have a offical transliteraltion, some do not. Some have an official romanization, some do not. Some are even officially in English (as the original
My recommendation is to use the official <whatever>, and if none are available, then do <whatever> is the most convenient for the reader.
Anyway, just my opinion. Tacopill (Talk) 01:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
That makes no sense at all. A translation is not a transliteration or transcription, they can't just be used interchangably. A translation would be like "Kirby of the Stars" for 星のカービィ, as opposed to "Hoshi no Kābī". We'll have to decide on which one we want to use this for. Better yet, we could have two attributes, one for the romanisation and one for the translation; that seems to make the most sense to me.--Vellidragon 02:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Alright, just keep in mind, that as far as we/I know, Nintendo has no official stance whether to use transliteration or transcriptions, with the "official translations" quite often being non-literal. Tacopill (Talk) 20:44, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
The problem is not whether to use a transcription or transliteration, the problem is that some people have been using this for a TRANSLATION (which is neither transcription nor transliteration, but the components of the name translated to a different language) while others have used it for a reading, which is something completely different. But you may know that anyway and we're just talking at cross purposes again. My suggestion would have one attribute for the transcription/transliteration, i.e. the reading, and another for the translation into English. E.g. "Hoshi no Kābī" in the reading one and "Kirby of the Stars" in the translation one. This just for clarification... I believe this is actually how StrategyWiki handles it, and the box appears to be based on their game infobox.--Vellidragon 20:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Alright, so I modified the template for this
  • jptrans - for transcription or transliteration, placed under the title-text when it is hovered over by a cursor.
  • jptranslation - for translations.
Would that work? :). Tacopill (Talk) 22:42, 22 January 2012 (UTC).
Necrobump, I justified doing it because this wiki is not that big. jproman and jpliteral possibly, because the ones Tacopill suggested sound a bit too similar sorry. Roman is for romanization; possibly do Hepburn like Bulbapedia. Perhaps a third and fourth one too, jpromanofficial and jplocalofficial like for example (respectively/in order of mentioning) Densetsu no Stafy and The Legend of Stafy (iQue), Legend of Stafy (Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga) From Evie (Torchickens) ✿ 23:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
This sounds good to me. Tacopill (Talk) 00:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply ^^ From Evie (Torchickens) ✿ 00:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Rereleases on other consoles suggestion

The rereleases parameter could be like: (Super Mario Bros.): Wii Virtual Console, Game Boy Advance (Classic NES series); and so on - like what we already do but in a condensed less detailed form as in a list and nothing more. Thoughts? From Evie (Torchickens) ✿ 23:39, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Would this be different from Other releases? Tacopill (Talk) 00:23, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Not really, except in a condensed form, not in a table like it, and without the notes column. Though, short enough so people still at the top view of their browser can already have the gist. From Evie (Torchickens) ✿ 00:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

Pricing section

Should have real-world currency as well. --Viperision (talk) 14:14, 15 July 2021 (UTC)