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Is this really notable? According to the coverage policy, articles on characters should be in lists. A 20:26, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
- Ordinarily, i would agree with you. However, due to Mario being the corporate mascot, i think we may need to make an exception for him. Tacopill (Talk) 06:56, 19 December 2010 (UTC).
- Who else can have an article? Can Pikachu have an article for being the mascot of the Pokémon series? What about Link, the hero of the Legend of Zelda series? Donkey Kong, the title character of the game Mario spun-off from? Samus Aran, one of the first female main protagonists of Nintendo? Or Kirby? Or Fox McCloud, the leader of Star Fox? Mario can't be the only character article here. Sure, Mario is the face of Nintendo, but there are other notable characters. And there is a category for Mascots of Nintendo, and a red link for a Mascot template. The policy states Bulbasaur and Meta Knight don't get articles, but Mario does? SeanWheeler (talk) 02:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- Firstly, There is currently a debate going on for coverage and content related to this wiki, I recommend checking it out and participating in. You may help the community come to an overall answer on this. But to answer your question more directly: With each character, how much presence does the character have outside the game/series (including other games, but more importantly, outside games altogether)? how well does the character represent its franchise, and Nintendo overall? Some examples:
- Pikachu is on things from Lunch Boxes to Computer Games, Cereal to Eggos, and many other things. It has incredibly strong presence for its native franchise, and for the corporation as a whole.
- Samus Aran, etc. on the other hand, sadly don't. Samus would probably make a good character to role model for young girls, but the franchise doesn't sell well and the she doesn't carry the recognizability that Mario and Pikachu do. If we made a "List of Mascots" she would definitely get an section. And if we could see if Nintendo invested time to make her an corporate mascot, than it might warrant another article. Tacopill (Talk) 00:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- At least, that is my opinion. Tacopill (Talk) 00:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- We might need to define this a bit more clearly, though. Whether the character has "enough" presence or not is highly subjective. For instance, I personally wouldn't have any idea whether Kirby would qualify for an article (he's highly recognisable and popular enough to get an anime series and several manga, but obviously not at the level of Mario). An article on Wikipedia even calls Captain Olimar a Nintendo mascot (without a source), whose likeness I have rarely seen anywhere and whose series has only three games (excluding new play control). I definitely agree that Mario as Nintendo's evident main mascot should have an article, but for characters in general, it's a highly problematic issue to be basing on subjective perception of vaguely defined importance.--Vellidragon (talk) 01:10, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
- Firstly, There is currently a debate going on for coverage and content related to this wiki, I recommend checking it out and participating in. You may help the community come to an overall answer on this. But to answer your question more directly: With each character, how much presence does the character have outside the game/series (including other games, but more importantly, outside games altogether)? how well does the character represent its franchise, and Nintendo overall? Some examples:
- Who else can have an article? Can Pikachu have an article for being the mascot of the Pokémon series? What about Link, the hero of the Legend of Zelda series? Donkey Kong, the title character of the game Mario spun-off from? Samus Aran, one of the first female main protagonists of Nintendo? Or Kirby? Or Fox McCloud, the leader of Star Fox? Mario can't be the only character article here. Sure, Mario is the face of Nintendo, but there are other notable characters. And there is a category for Mascots of Nintendo, and a red link for a Mascot template. The policy states Bulbasaur and Meta Knight don't get articles, but Mario does? SeanWheeler (talk) 02:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
- Well if only Wikipedia calls Olimar a mascot without any known source, and the Pikmin series has only three games, then I don't think Olimar would qualify as a mascot. However, Pikachu might qualify since it appeared just about everywhere in Pokémon merchandise dispite it's rarity in the game. Yep, it is a mascot alright. And like Mario can have a page. It can have a Bulbapedia interwiki template linking to Pikachu and out-of-universe content about it being the mascot of Pokémon. As with Samus, well it is hard to realize she's a girl at first glance with her Halo-style bulky Power Suit. If her Metroid series doesn't sell well and people unfamiliar with Metroid can't tell if she's a girl, maybe she's not notable enough. Sorry Metroid fans. Now Link, his Legend of Zelda series seems to be popular and is one of the notable Nintendo series. He was even a guest in Soul Calibur. Even though some people may confuse Link with Zelda (because who would name a legend after the damsel in distress instead of the hero?) I think he might be famous enough for an article here. A link to Link. That is funny. What about Donkey Kong? He has the name of Mario's first appearance. Yoshi seems to be on Mario merchandise too. Luigi is the brother of the mascot. Kirby had a big role in the Subspace Emmisary. I think it would all depend on how well an article can be constructed. SeanWheeler (talk) 03:30, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
