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Licensing and Other Things

Hey, where are the licensing templates? - GP talk 09:28, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Oh, also, is this okay? Just used what I had on my computer; Tango's was too small. Are we going for a certain colour? - GP talk 09:29, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Licensing
The license are available in the drop down box on the uploaded page, as pictured to the right. Or, you may look at this related category.
It's fine to upload this. One day, however, I do plan to replace it with something more original. Still, it will do for now. Thank you for uploading it.
Tacopill (Talk) 23:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC).
What I meant is, they're all content templates, not specifically to indicate licensing. If you look at the file description, you'd see I said it's LGPL: where are generic licenses like fairuse, free and public domain? - GP talk 09:20, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Not to make myself out to be a noob here, but: What is the difference between content licence templates and generic licence templates? Tacopill (Talk) 06:22, 12 March 2011 (UTC).
The templates in that category indicate the content of the file: in some cases it's always going to be, say, fair use, but in others, the template either assumes the file is copyrighted or gives a list of licenses it might fall under. This is ambiguous and not very flexible: if license is not defined by the content, it should be clearly stated on the description page what the distribution terms of the file are. Take this image: the obvious template, according to its content, is "Wiki File", but that assumes fair use, which is not the case.
Also, what's with the silliness on {{License/Wiki File}}? And {{License/Copyright Nintendo}} is a different style to the others and overlaps with a lot of their use-cases. - GP talk 09:03, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
If it's ambiguous, wouldn't that make it more flexable? :D. ALso, how would it a "Wiki File". It was not generated to be a wiki exclusive, such as Template:File or Template:File was, i believe to be.
As for it's sillyness, It was designed to be a mock template of the fair use templates, since anything created exclusively for the wiki wouldn't be subject to copyright, unless they filed for it.
Anyway, would you do me a huge favor and create the missing licence templates, and fix the one's we currently have?
Tacopill (Talk) 23:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC).
Oh, I assumed a 'wiki file' was a file for use on the wiki, but not as part of article content - logo, favicon, banners, etc.. Having a template for files exclusive to this wiki is a bit silly, 'cause there's no way you can promise it won't be used anywhere else, especially if, as you say, you don't expect them to be copyrighted files.
AFAIK, copyright doesn't work like that: if you create something and say it's copyrighted, then it's copyrighted.
I guess I could. I also don't like the inconsistency in capitalisation in template names: what should the standard be? (My opinion: do it how Wikipedia does it (every word lower-case except for proper nouns (and the first letter, of course))). - GP talk 16:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I guess we could switch the use of the "Wiki File" to being as you stated: Files for the Wiki's use, but not for article content. (Sounds boring, but o well).
Last i checked, one can only have a copyright when one files for it....with a Copyright Agency. There's also implied copyright, which you get for by time-coding an idea; but I'm not sure this would be the case. I mean, if i could just create something and automatically copyright it, what would be the purpose of copyright agencies?
When you speak of inconsistency of templates, do you mean overall or just the license templates? if the former, feel free to move them to the appropriate titles, since i am not the best at anything that comes to language. If the latter, then what do you mean? they are all capitalized :D.
Tacopill (Talk) 17:25, 13 March 2011 (UTC).

"Copyright under the Berne Convention must be automatic; it is prohibited to require formal registration". And as you can see, this covers most of the world. Maybe you're confusing this with patents/patent offices?

Yeah, I meant with all templates - all pages, in fact (excepting user sub-pages and files, of course). - GP talk 17:45, 13 March 2011 (UTC)