Talk:List of cancelled Nintendo games

Tetrisphere

I added back the Japanese テトリスフィアー with sources. Unsure if it was removed for a certain reason, like publisher, lack of data, etc.? From Evie (Torchickens) ✿ 21:38, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Baten Kaitos DS

Should the cancelled Baten Kaitos on the DS be listed here? It's a Namco series and it's unclear who would have published it, but considering that Origins was already entirely published by Nintendo, that Monolith was acquired by Nintendo in 2007 and that we have articles for the two other games I thinik it only makes sense. Reggiamoto (talk) 06:33, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Rumors

I removed the rumors section per Talk:Kirby's Dream Land 2, but it looks like we have sections/articles on games on this page (List of cancelled Nintendo games) has details that are still a bit murky (it's mainly my fault for writing the base page and being overly trusting of sources); we see this nowadays with e.g. DidYouKnowGaming? videos on Pokémon Grey as much as I like that channel). However, it's hard because a lot of these franchises have smaller fan-bases, and it isn't always as simple as "this is a rumor"/"this is not". So I suggest perhaps:

1. All entries should have an accompanying reference where the original developers/publishers say it existed (and if possible it should be from a direct source e.g. like Iwata Asks rather than e.g. a NintendoLife article). Like Wikipedia's policies; there are also certain sources which may be seen as less reliable than others (e.g. a third-party magazine with no relationship to Nintendo as opposed to Nintendo Co. Ltd's Nintendo Online Magazine, Iwata Asks, etc.) The sad truth is that it is impossible to prove veracity/truthfulness about the past regardless, as even a Nintendo employee could be misremembering the past, or a magazine regarded as unreliable being true that time, etc. So in that case, it should be removed case-by-case? For example, the rumored Super Mario FX is false, because Dylan Cuthbert confirmed it was a codename for the Super FX Chip.

2. An exception however has been regarded to be the 2018-2020 Nintendo, Microsoft data breaches, because there seemed to be too much evidence pointing towards their veracity e.g. Dylan Cuthbert tweeted confirming a tool he made found from the leak was real), or this argument about Nintendo Space World '97. A lot of the contents were seemingly never announced or hinted at by Nintendo or a developer at all (such as Sutte Hakkun GB), while annoucements for Black Out and Hello Kitty Pocket Camera did exist but were obscure.

3. Data-mining can be another exception, but you have to trust the data-miner. Also I feel there should be some substantive evidence in there. Game wikis in general have allowed original research through trust (Wikipedia doesn't though, yet there is a loophole in the system where Wikipedia might fail at their own rules - for example, a journalist (regarded as "trustworthy"/"reliable") takes a dataminer's finds even if they were from somewhere like Twitter (e.g. circular reporting).

Thoughts? From Evie (Torchickens) ✿ 19:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)